yay... err no... fucking piece of shit

[[TgR]KILLER]

got my new vid and ram today.. was happy.. another few hours later my mobo aint sitting in my comp no more and a brand new asus mobo is on its way.. found out the fucking msi k whatever are buggy as fuck not taking any ram.. was lucky the first ram was working with it lol..

anyway follow the story live @ http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?t=108458 pics included !

leaving me off nc for a day or 2.. have no mail yet the new mobo is on the way so prob getting it fri or saturday ( as it was in stock ) typing this on the old comp that used to run nc only missing a good vid and ram. and cba to put the old vid from my own comp in it.

[Morpheous]

Gigabyte Technologies > AsusTech

[Brammers]

Gigabyte Technologies > AsusTech

No...no....Asus > All other motherboards.

Brammers (Asus fan)

[Morpheous]

My Gigabyte supports Dual BIOS, Dual PSU and comes with dynamic overclocking, and outperforms Asus models in the same price range. Ha!

[Brammers]

My Gigabyte supports Dual BIOS, Dual PSU and comes with dynamic overclocking, and outperforms Asus models in the same price range. Ha!

And for chipset for chipset - thats when Asus wins!

[[TgR]KILLER]

just to make a point clear.. the store i bought had way more asus boards.. and to that.. the only gigabyte that had the same things as the asus i orderd and that was on stock was 10 euro's more expensive.. and now look at the boards shall wel..



hmm small aint it ?



imho that one is bigger.. so why is bigger better.. look were the agp slot is ever had a geforce 6800 GT in your hands ? fuck me i thought my TI 4200 was big.. this one is wat bigger. i know for sure it wouldn't even fit in the case of this comp as it just fits my comp

ow another very smart thing.. the place were the cpu goes is on it sideways.. gives a hell of a load more room to install it only downside is the place for the power connector but thats just mee cause i got way to much cables in my case lol.

[Morpheous]

I'd take a pic of my board because it's a heck of a lot bigger than that. Extended ATX anyone? also the processor position is side-on like your Asus on my board.

[[TgR]KILLER]

yea and i gues its alot more expensive it is..

give me a full feature list of what it got and doesn't have

if its any bigger then that asus board then its gone anyway i aint got a house as a case.

[HusK]

(here comes a serieus reply )

My Gigabyte supports Dual BIOS, Dual PSU and comes with dynamic overclocking, and outperforms Asus models in the same price range. Ha!

Dual Bios? You mean you have a backup bios and they wrote it down under a different name, you can't have two bios'es running at the exact same time.
This is not really special and is actualy implemented in some way in about every board of the last 5 years, only with most there is just the option to restore the bios by means of a special 3rd cmos jumper option, instead of running on the backup to restore the primary.

Dual PSU... *coughs* Power Supply Unit... Why in gods name would you want to connect TWO power supply units??

Dynamic Overclocking? Thats just a way of saying... we made overclocking easy for you, however the way we do it will be sucky, but we don't want you to know that offcourse, nor do we want you to know that we limited the actual overclocking and removed the dip switches for you so you won't do it the way its supposed to


Not trying to flame your morpheus, but about 90% of what it says per mainboard is crap, just tricks for you to choose that exact board.
I cannot tell which of the boards mentioned here is better, I can say something about the chips used... but though some chips are less stable than others, they all have both positive and negative sides, and the outcome offcourse depends for a large part of what parts the board manufactor actualy decided to use on your board and what functionality to disable and point to other chips.

mainboards speed basicly just depends on a few things, for one, the front side bus, memory is better if its closer to the cpu(amount doesn't matter anymore, but offcourse memory speed, latency, etc still does highly... but thats usualy more up to the mem module than the mainboard, except for supported max speed that is) and then the question is what onboard functions are you using... and the miljon dollar question always is... what north bridge does it have? (which is 9 out of 10 times the one reason that makes the board stable, or instable).

Extended ATX is last on my list.. its only difference with normal ATX is that the size can be just a little bigger, usualy these boards are server related and have multiple PCI-X (note... not PCI express) slots for which I still have to find a senseble useness :roll:

Looking at the pics of killer the upper board is inferiour in more than just the slots.
Many of its functions (chips) now seem to have been moved to a single chip (bad because it usualy affects much of the quality of the work the chip does)
No extra ATA Raid 0 slot?
Badly removed PCI slot... should've removed the top one and kept the buttom one.
Missing 2 backpannel USB ports.

I hope for you kill that it has some significant technology updates... like replace your agp 4x with agp 8x, and use I2S codec for audio output instead of AC'97, have onboard sex machine.. or something anywayz :s


As my personal preference... if I go for quality I buy soltek, if I go for speed I usualy go for asus because of a larger and quicker (to increase/upgrade) productbase.
If I go for both (my own pc usualy) I spend a good month on researching various board from all brands all over the world

[[TgR]KILLER]

gonna use my creative card for sound anyways.. but all mobo's got nothing. or network and sound and i want @ least network on it..

I spend a good month on researching various board from all brands all over the world

din't have that time if you saw the pics on the offi forums you saw my pc has no mobo atm so kinda need a new one..

Slots: 1x AGP
6x PCI (32 Bit)

AGP-Standards: AGP 4x (1,5V) AGP 8x (0,8V)

PCI-standaard(-en): PCI 32 Bit, 33 MHz, 5 Volt

Bussnelheid: 200-333 MHz

BIOS: Award

Geheugen: Slot: 3x DDR-DIMM
Type: DDR-SDRAM
Standaard: DDR200 (PC1600)
DDR266 (PC2100)
DDR333 (PC2700)
DDR400 (PC3200) <-=-=
Max. geheugen: 3072 MB

yea i know dutch but its from the site i bought the board and i cba to type it over anyway.. it had to have agp 8x cause my new vid needs that.. bus speed 200 x 333 aint alot i admit there are boards that can do 400.. but since my amd runs @ 133 mhz = 266 mhz.. so it will go.. and never cloaked it over the 152 mhz and that comes to 304 so it will still run if i can oc just as much with the asus board lol.

as for my ram from the official ASUS site.

Note: * Use only the tested and qualified PC3200-DDR400 DIMMs listed below.
Other DDR DIMM manufactured by other vendors may not be suitable for this motherboard.

Vendor Type Size Model
TwinMOS PC3200(DDR400) 256MB MDSTTUF08108L294K4FW0/T
Winbond PC3200(DDR400) 512MB W9451GBDB-5
Apacer PC3200(DDR400) 256MB 77.10636.465
Apacer PC3200(DDR400) 512MB 77.10736.464
Samsung PC3200(DDR400) 512MB M368L6423DTM-CC4
Samsung PC3200(DDR400) 256MB M368L3223DTM-CC4
Kingston PC3200(DDR400) 256MB KVR400X64C25 / 256
Kingston PC3200(DDR400) 512MB KVR400X64C25 / 512
Micron PC3200(DDR400) 256MB MT16VDDT3264AG-403B2
PC3200U-30440-Z
Micron PC3200(DDR400) 128MB MT8VDDT1664AG-403B2
PC3200U-30440-Z
Kingmax PC3200(DDR400) 256MB MPXB62D-68KX3-MBA

Kingston PC3200(DDR400) 256MB KVR400X64C25 / 256 <--=-= exactly what it says on the boxes of my ram so i gues i'm ok

[HusK]

AGP 8 is not a requirement... but will let the gfx card run at full speed (not that you'll really notice the difference between 4x and 8x)
As with memory, on your AMD you will hardly notice a speed difference between Pc2100 and pc3200.

But anyway, I've done the same switch as you have, at the time to a asus a7n8x-x, with exactly the same specs (except that you did not put usb2 and such in the specs).
Did also not have the chance to check on boards much... did a quick look aruond in the shops here what they had in store and then did a quick look on the net which one was the best of what was instore.

Looks like this mainboard is the VIA version of mine, KT400 should be pretty balanced out by now, take a quick look on google newsgroups (www.deja.com) what users have most problems with before you continue to buy. If its anything like mine, it will be hard to overclock (memory management system is a bitch) but well stable and have all features you need.

[[TgR]KILLER]

before i buy ? orderd it yesterday running it today

came @ 10.30 just finished reinstalling windows ( everything driver i wanted to install just gave a error saying "the data is invalid"

so i just reinstalled windows updating it now reinstalling programs etc etc etc.. but.. the vid is working.. the ram is working.. and yea just saw in the bios its a bitch to OC since i can't reach the fsb but i'll get back on that later when all programs are on and shit.. tweakers should give me all info i need

[HusK]

great your back in action

one sidenote on that OC though... overclock trough dipswitches or jumpers if at all possible, overclocking trough bios usualy is alot less stable... (alot...less... right )

[[TgR]KILLER]

i'll go fiddle with the OC later.. its working now and i think i put everything back on..

vid drivers
divx
mobo drivers
usb 2 drivers
sound drivers
place old my docs back
network drivers
setup network
run SP4
run rest of updates trough ms site
install antivirus
install msn
install deamon tools
install winrar
install winzip
install office
install media player
not to forget.. directx

err i think i intalled more but can't remember

anyway it all seems to work.. gonna put it trough it pases now well see how stable it all stays

[booglebox]

lucky for you 2000 installs shit fast. (15 mins tops)
Updating is a pain though- My dad bought a 80gig portable hdd and I use it for backing up things like service packs and "critical" updates lol. win2k gets clogged up with crap reeeeel easy you need to quite literally prune it- de-install everything you don't critically need.

Oh, and by the way- Buy XP.
(Or wait for longhorn, your call)