Pro...may be coming back to NC...

[Pantho]

dont opp war if you dont want to play opp war characters

See that just wrong....

Spies Tanks and PE's should be able to op fight

[silent000]

Ive hackd the first layer of an FF OP and saw 2 APUs and about 8 PPUs no lie all come out and try and find me, was quite amusing wen they found me in the end so deathrow ent as bad as some anti clans =/

[NC Virtuoso]

dont opp war if you dont want to play opp war characters

See that just wrong....

Spies Tanks and PE's should be able to op fight

the world isnt fair buddy, if you want to win in opp wars you bring monks and tanks

[Pantho]

Ive hackd the first layer of an FF OP and saw 2 APUs and about 8 PPUs no lie all come out and try and find me, was quite amusing wen they found me in the end so deathrow ent as bad as some anti clans =/

And ive hacked a DR op and seen the same.... your point is?


And i now the world isnt fair, but the game should be ballance...

yeayea the whole balance crap, They are never going to make apu/ppu teams less powerful... unless they do crazy shit like weaken shelter/lightning then they ruin the fact that PPU is ment to be nearly invincible and APU is ment to deal high dmg.

[NC Virtuoso]

some classes are just designed to do certian stuff better

you dont see apus and ppus crying about not being able to go solo pking as well as a PE do you you?

[Pantho]

APU's Can solo PK....

The idea is great dmg, but frail body....

[NC Virtuoso]

PEs can opp war, APUs can solo pk, but PEs are nowhere as near as good in an opp war and APUs are nowhere as good at solo pking

as stated in my previous post: "you dont see apus and ppus crying about not being able to go solo pking as well as a PE do you you?"

please read the post your replying to from now on, and consider if your own post makes any sence or relation to the point your arguing before posting please

[Pantho]

It does make sense, Every class "should" be balanced in op wars and Solo PKing,

apart from a ppu... ok we now they cant PK

[NC Virtuoso]

the classes have never been balanced, and they never will.. maybe since i doubt you played early neocron you have some utopian image of perfectly balaced opp wars with every class. well it was nowhere near, the only reason you got more was the game was less competetive and a lot of people didnt know nearly as much about it.. opp wars will ALWAYS be dominated by monks and tanks and if it was any other way it just wouldnt be neocron

[Pantho]

No i did play Early neocron....

i cba to argue .-

[NC Virtuoso]

ok then what nc1 server? what were your char names?

im going by your 2005 forum acct and the fact i never saw your name untill like a month before i quit

'cba to argue' looks like a get out to a lost cause to me

[Pantho]

no its saying i cba to spent time on the lsot cause....

And yes i played NC1 - Uranus , char names Pantho - Warnick - Urioaj

Only for a few months. but i played....

I never said that ATM Monks and Tank are better in op wars. but i remember in NC1 spies where very viable in op wars. and ALL chars should be viable...

Balance means Balance. as 1 v 1 Should be upto Personals skill.. Not there class.

2 v 2 should still be skill not there class.

[NC Virtuoso]

but i remember in NC1 spies where very viable in op wars.

yeah only because of spirit mods, and they were removed with good cause LOL

Balance means Balance. as 1 v 1 Should be upto Personals skill.. Not there class.

up to a few months before i quit it was almost like this, tanks PEs and APUs were all level.. only hybrids were overpowered but they've always been fucked

[Pantho]

Spirit mods where never a great problem on uranus imo...

I remember TehJeStEr or some stupid name, also had TehSnip3r. How much he paid for his spirit mod was obsene. but some1 told me on saturn they had a dupe problem with the spirit mods.


But yea, they should be balance, Spies and Pe's should be viable in op wars.

i think the major problem with balance is people have learnt how to push there chars to the limit, making PE's way overpowered. a good PE can take down a apu hyb with a exec or Xbow.

[NC Virtuoso]

woc items are lose-lose

if they are balanced people will cry about their precious item it took so long to get being no advantage over any item

if they are given an edge then thats it, balance is lost and nothing has been solved

and you think that duping didnt exist on uranus?