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Postby [TgR]KILLER » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:09 pm

hendrix wrote:I dont own a gat, im only rank 22 so me using a gat would be out of the question.


gwar could use a lib @ rank 30ish.. so a gat @ 22 would be quite possible imo
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Postby Mumblyfish » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:40 pm

[TgR]KILLER wrote:i don't know what is there about this stuff but i know Fish pissed TG off big time.. i spoke with FF about that loads of times..


To be frank, I'm quite sick of that whole situation, and if they take one act of self-defense as a reason to attack a whole faction... why trust them as allies?
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Postby HusK » Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:33 pm

Archeus wrote:I was only posting what he said. I would be willing to bet he lied. It wouldn't be the first time such an incident happened. I got whacked a month or so back by a CM and then claimed I started the fight. Had to post the logs to get other Angels to believe me at the time.


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Postby Calabim » Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:39 pm

Okay let im kinda hoping my word counts for anything on this forum.

The low ranking biotech runner, Micheal Drekan.
Was infact a tank using a gatling cannon.
He also happens to be a real life friend of mine,
that i visited while visiting my parents.

So after "accidently" having Neocron on me i got him to open an account.

And since i was sitting right next to him,
and he fully understood the consequences of removing his LE.
We both felt that the game are more fun if you can be PKed.

What iam angry at isnt that he was killed.

But the fact that at rank 14 he was attacked by Hendrix,
down in Core 3 TH2 Side A.

We both just thought he was testing his newbie shotgun,
but he kept shooting.
So i told my friend to dash him with his combat knife a few times.
Hendrix didnt stop shooting so my friend ran to get his laser cannon.
with wich he then killed Hendrix. (I was still sitting next to him.)

So after some more leveling,
we run into morpheous down in the same cores.
Now we see morphous have placed him self directly infront of the door.
And are droning, droning counts as having a weapon drawn,
thus anything nearby will target him,
instead of the drone until it have fired at them.
People who hunt alot in cores might also know,
that turrets actualy open doors to shoot people.

At this point Morpheous had already sustained alot of damage,
so i tell my friend to run in and open fire on the turret,
to distract it.
(my friend still being low ranking cannot survive one on one with a turret.)
Were unfortunatly to late, and Morpheous dies.
After a few minutes a drone sweeps in and kills my mate in seconds.

Since this happens in hunting zones,
I can quite easily prove that my friend didnt kill Morpheous.
Since Morpheous took a soul light hit from killing Micheal,
Micheal must have had positive soul light,
wich he couldn´t have had if he killed Morpheous 5 minutes earlier.

Further more I was told that Biotech shouldnt even be hunting in Tech Haven.
When i logged on to my account to ask what just happened.
This is just about the usual macho crap many people in Tech Haven,
like to say to when ever theyre superior,
or outnumbering the enemy 10 to 1.

Im not mad at any of the people that attacked Micheal.
Instead I get a better insight why we might be one of the most hated factions.
If this is what the average runner visiting Tech Haven must endure no wonder they hate us.
And remember this is a neutral faction.
I wonder what a newbie from a hostile faction must endure.
Hell im thinking of just getting another accoutn just to see for my self.
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Postby HusK » Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:19 am

Your word counts for me, and every FA that has been here in the past months should know you are 100% trustworthy.
OW and as you know, TgR is completely against all lowbie / n00b killing.
Infact we don't kill at all unless provoked.

Your story is making some intresting points here....And no offense but it seems like not all of Phoenix is as innocent as they said they are. Care to explain why you acted so aggresively withoud warning or checking morpheus?
And Maybe Fish you've been informed wrong and/or told half the truth?

Now I come to see why we have so many enemy's in FA, and this more or less gives me satisfaction on the previous accusations made towards TgR.

I call upon any and all angels in FA to stop these disturbing acts of violence!


Ow and BTW FF never ever attacked the whole faction, they always helped out when asked, they where the ones who initionaly said they wanted to help FA to make us strong again after everyone left FA(FA was about 15 active people strong at the time of their statement), they have so far always kept to their word and I still concider them allies.
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Postby Archeus » Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:10 am

hendrix wrote:I dont own a gat, im only rank 22 so me using a gat would be out of the question.


No it was the guy that claimed you PK'ed him owns a gat.
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Postby Thonkus » Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:59 pm

[TgR]HusK wrote:...it seems like not all of Phoenix is as innocent as they said they are. Care to explain why you acted so aggresively withoud warning or checking morpheus?


I witnessed a similar situation outside of the core (morph shooting at a tank and killed him [a neutral no less]) after a hostility or two the other day. When I asked WTF his problem was and why take an SL hit he said "I'm only 12". Now, not only did this piss me off as it made phoenix and myself look bad as I was standing in the vicinity, it seems to be the mentality of a lot of younger players. They don't care what they do or what the consequences of thier actions are towards the whole (our faction). This kind of childish behavior needs to end. Yeah, i know it's just a game and you can play it anyway you wish too, but there are consequences brought against the whole faction as a result of poor judgement.
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Postby HusK » Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:27 am

your right thonkus,

And as for this being just a game... its not just a game, as soon as a game has more than about 50 people in it, it becomes a community, and a community has the same needs ingame as out of game.
You can do alot of things you can't normaly do outside of game, which makes the game fun, but pointless killing like done by so many youngers should not be tollerated, even tho its extreemly difficuld to stop it.

Now I know you, bram, zane, redhaze, etc etc in Phoenix are nothing like that so its not realy a fair thing for me to say, it just points out you can't judge clans by what seem to be their actions before its about a majority of members.
TgR in the future will do things wrong, like every human being, we will do things that others don't appreciate there is no going around that as every clans members do things that others don't appreciate. For me its no reason to dismiss a member unless it realy gets out of hand inside the clan itself, but it is all making things difficult, as expected.

I can only say that we always need to try find ways to work things out, even tho thats not always possible.

And @ Morpheus personaly, you want us to leave FA for being a more aggresive clan? Next time don't say anything unless you yourself are perfect and realy have something to say that makes sence.
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Postby F8i » Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:57 pm

Selling KILLERS & Husk's dogtags for 25k each (BARGAIN!)

(*snigger* hey guys :P )
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Postby Morpheous » Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:47 pm

I would just like to point out a few things....


When I killed Micheal (The biotech) I talked to LeRoy and apologised, that was that

When I killed the other tank it was a late night session (You know how they go) and there was a PPU there, I did not mean to kill him (delayed reactions/lag combo) and I apologised after.

I never killed on purpose without good motive and I always question people before I kill them...the biotech I killed without question as I was certain he had killed me, so I just went and attacked him. Thats the only time I have done that, and I am sorry about that LeRoy

Whenever I see an enemy fac in TH I dont shoot. I just run back to an appt, yell on FAC and occasionally try to get the enemy to leave unless they have good reason.


Apologies to Thonkus about the Tank incedent-was a little rowdy at the time (LAN party) and acted inappropriately. :oops:
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Postby HusK » Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:00 am

Weither it is true or not what you say morpheus doesn't change anything for me.

The fact is that your making the same mistakes as many other runners, I can't realy blame ya for that, but what annoyed me is your comment in the other thread while you make the same mistake that we are told one of us had made.


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Postby [TgR]KILLER » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:22 am

F8i wrote:Selling KILLERS & Husk's dogtags for 25k each (BARGAIN!)

(*snigger* hey guys :P )


lo mate.. thought u dit quit nc ? tho still around =)

i don't think u got any 70/70 dogtags of me do u ? :p
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